Answer (1 of 22): Liverpool and Arsenal. Leeds and Galatasaray haven't faced each other since the events of 2000, but when that day does eventually come again, the atmosphere and everything surrounding the build-up to the game as well as the game itself is going to be....unique. In so doing, they attracted hatred and brickbats aplenty from Leeds followers. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. All it takes to start fighting back is that pride, passion and respect. If they don’t know this, then it should be made abundantly clear to them prior to kick off. And the thing is – someone involved is well aware of the implications and the back story here. Love Alioski as a character and player. To me, that sums up my feelings about it - it's about rising above the hatred and being the bigger club. Marketing and publicity are arts without a soul or a conscience. It also proved fundamental to his later transgressions. He even waived his own cut of the deal so that his former club could derive the maximum financial benefit. George Caulkin - The Times. Leeds fans have long memories, and Kewell is possibly not looking forward with any great relish to the time when his path will cross, once again, with that of Leeds United and its fanatical followers. Leeds United. Of course, it may just be scaremongering of the most grotesquely tasteless kind by that section of the media – about 95% of it – which delights in that attitude where Leeds are concerned. ' In A Football Man, Giles tells the story of a dream pursued and realised beyond his wildest imaginings, from his humble beginnings in Ormond Square in 1940s' Dublin,counting down the minutes to his next game of football, to that ... Not on April the 5th. I just think it's crazy that Leeds fans think Alioski should have the same morals as Leeds fans; when he's not a Leeds fan, he just played for Leeds for a few years in his mid to late 20's. 7 goals in 62 games for England and 156 goals in 707 games for a variety of clubs in a long career. Any suggestion that night that any member of the Leeds United team, who faced such a sick and disgusting display of hostility and hatred, could one day wear the colours of the home team, would have been dismissed as a tasteless joke. ferociously to reclaim the ball in an aggressive manner. That Kewell could choose to sign for such a club, with such fans, says all we need to know about the depths to which his character was capable of sinking. I have posted previously about this and I thought I would be more angry about it. It was the incompetent and malicious police who caused the deaths. Kewell’s football track record since retiring as a player is not exactly sparkling. The home side twice came from behind thanks to two headed goals by Eirik Bakke in either half to end Leeds' run of six consecutive defeats. They only have one career and have to earn as much as possible. That’s a kind of evil in itself. At the end of the day, he's not a Leeds fan and he's not Leeds born. Barcelona host Bayern, with Barca now bigger underdogs than they were when they lost 8-2 in 2020. He cannot have failed to appreciate the intentional hurt inflicted by the Galatasaray club – and especially their cowardly fans – to the feelings of everybody concerned with the Leeds United cause, especially of course the bereaved families of Chris Loftus and Kevin Speight. Having no prior connection to Leeds, it may not signify with him anyway. That season, 1999/2000, didn’t begin so well, as Gala fell from the Champions League into the second-tier competition. Do you hate him anyway as he’s a practising Muslim and Muslim extremists have killed thousands of English people? “I chose the No 19 shirt when I signed for Galatasaray SK as a sign of respect for Leeds because that was the number I got when I first became a regular member of the Leeds United starting XI. Harry Kewell: one-time Leeds star, has-been footballer – and the worst example of self-seeking treachery it’s been my misfortune to witness. Chris and Kevin will never be forgotten, but we don't need to have their memories tied to the kind of hatred and tribalism which led to their deaths in the first place. The Bremner Square refurbishment of the statue area is a fantastic idea, and has been carried into reality in an equally fantastic manner. I don’t see why you can’t just hate the cunts who had any involvement or condoned what happened, whilst also seeing that he’s a professional footballer with nothing to do with it, and going there isn’t some sort of statement of approval for how they acted. Whether or not Gjanni goes there has no impact on our feelings about that club, and unless he decided to piss on our shirt in the middle of the Ali Sami Yen and slag us off after his first match for them I won't think he's been anything other than a decent player for us. On that fateful day 16 years ago, we lost two of our own as Chris Loftus and Kevin Speight were cruelly, foully murdered by savage, uncivilised scum in Taksim Square, Istanbul. Thousands of fans will be at Old Trafford on Sunday to show the strength of … It was a heartfelt call on Twitter (see above) from a Leeds fan, Of course Chris and Kev are already honoured by the plaque on an Elland Road wall nearby. With both sides going for the Double, the clash turned into a ragged, violent draw. Found insideAt last, football has its answer to Freakonomics, The Tipping Point and The Undercover Economist. Welcome to the World Soccer Talk Store. They did so in the horrible years of tanking to league one, nearly escaping then most of their lives wanting PL. The expectation was that Galatasaray would be able to secure the win and open up their campaign in style which, to be fair, did happen. But Gjanni is 29, he is after his last big contract in his career, he is a practicing Muslim and they are very close to his home nation, from his point of view if they offer him the best deal, better then what he is getting here, then go for it. There was the infamous personal grudge between Manchester United captain Roy Keane and Alf-Inge Haaand in September 1997, while there was also a clash between Ian Harte and Fabien Barthez in March 2001 in which the French goalkeeper stamped on the Leeds player’s shin. I want my players to love playing here. April 5th, 2000, Tagged anniversary, Chris and Kev, Galatasaray, injustice, Istanbul, justice, Leeds United, murderers, murders, passion, pride, prison, Taksim Square, Turkey, Turkiye, UEFA, welcome to hell. RIP: Kevin Speight and Christopher Loftus. Is this for real? Found insideThis is the first academic monograph to focus exclusively on issues of race, ethnicity, whiteness and multiculture at the English seaside. … Somebody knows all too well the effect of that tweet on the Leeds United world. One of our greatest players of all time, as much as I hate to say that, Harry Kewell has been ostracised from the club because he played for Galatasaray, this is despite the fact that at the time of his move to the Turkish capital, he hadn't played for Leeds for years, the argument against Harry Kewell is that he was at the club when the events unfolded, regardless of whether he joined Galatasaray for financial or competitive gain, it was an incredibly insensitive move, he knew exactly what he was doing and he knew exactly the type of reactions that move would provoke from Leeds fans. Kewell must, surely, have felt as threatened and disgusted by the atmosphere prior to and during the game as any other United player that night. Which Arsenal Players are Muslim? Both players received a tonne of abuse on their return to Elland Road the following season. 5 mins: Hagi scores from the spot. And now the traitor is back among us once again. Found insideTravelling from the elite training facilities of Istanbul to dusty pitches on the Syrian border, taking in visits to far-flung clubs, encounters with characterful players and experiences at riotous matches along the way, Welcome to Hell? ... Galatasaray have since become the embodiment of everything Leeds United hate, and would even be considered by many Leeds fans to be more hated than Manchester United (scum.) The only comparable case is of a player who had previously moved on from Leeds, not in the most auspicious of circumstances, before eventually signing for the Istanbul side. I doubt there’s even anyone with any involvement of running the club who is still there from when it happened. And shame on the staff at the club who should be making sure that their charges are at least on nodding acquaintance with a reality beyond their own pay packets. If you think about it a lot of our lads who were there, who had kids, who brought them up Leeds. Tagged David Luiz, James Rodriguez. ... Galatasaray. Leeds United draw Arsenal in Carabao Cup as Dan James hails club’s young penalty heroes, Hull City's brutal £35m estimated five-year player sale losses compared to Cardiff City & more. What is the history behind one of the more remarkable ‘derbies’? If it was one of the academy lads or someone who was a fan it would be a bit different. The players of Leeds United looked up to the crowd that night and saw snarling faces, disfigured by feverish hatred, fingers drawn across necks in the time-disgraced but locally admired “throat-slitting” gesture, the whole nightmare scene played out against a backdrop of “Welcome to Hell” banners as the bestial home fans taunted the United support, who simply turned their back on proceedings at kick-off in what must count as the most dignified display of protest in recent history. One of the more believable rumours out there, in the wake of, 23 year old Denayer has yet to make a breakthrough at the, Leeds United needs another central defender, and squad number 5 at, One way or another, further business looks likely – that 5 shirt hasn’t been left empty for nothing. Here is a group that has fans loving to hate them. Get yourself to that Premier League subs bench you’ll be occupying next season and stay there, counting your money. Firstly I would like to say that my aim of this report was to get my views across, my grammar in places will be lazy so my apologies. On that fateful day 16 years ago, we lost two of our own as. He can expect little in the way of congratulations or good luck wishes from the fans of Leeds United, whose shirt he wore for years – and then disgraced by signing for Turkish horror club Galatasaray. They should run out there onto that pitch with no thoughts of money or other distractions: they should emerge onto the field of combat ready and willing to give their all for the Leeds United fans, and especially for the memory of those two lads who never came home. There is a long-standing north–south rivalry between PSG (representing Paris and by extension northern France) and Olympique de Marseille … It felt a little bit disrespectful to write an entire article about them, and then not mention them at the bottom, the last thing people will read. Of course Chris and Kev are already honoured by the plaque on an Elland Road wall nearby. The Stade Velodrome became a battleground between Marseille and Galatasaray supporters on Thursday, with scenes in the stands forcing the referee to stop play. It's week 13 of this season's Definitive European Player Power Rankings, and we at HQ would just like to congratulate Liverpool on winning the Premier League. Over 1,000 of you voted with Harry Kewell receiving 58% of the vote in a landslide “victory”. You can disagree with his decision without abusing him online. His lack of bottle coming off in a Champions League Final with Liverpool 0-3 down, then cavorting uninjured with his unearned winner’s medal after Liverpool had fought back to triumph without him. I’d appeal to anyone who reads this to contact the club and press the case, in the certain knowledge that the club would listen and empathise. Teun van Dijk is one of the founders of Critical Discourse Studies and this collection brings together some of his most important writing, framed by new introductory material. This should be an occasion for the restoration of pride, for remembering that they have the honour to represent the greatest club in the world, in front of the greatest fans in the Universe. Why do most supporters hate Leeds United? Batty,has tracked down the players and the fans who,remember this troubled era with affection and the,result is a colourful trip down memory lane. If he was a key player forcing a move to them, it would make more sense to me but the reality is that he isn't good enough to start regularly for us, especially if we sign a new left back, and he knows that and wants to go somewhere where he will play more, which is completely fair. 2. Pool fans, great masters of violence! Regardless of whether you were alive at the time, or whether you have only just started supporting Leeds United in the last few years, EVERYONE is aware of the unique relationship we have with Galatasaray, opposition supporters have been using it as a tool to mock us for years, Manchester United fans have brought banners to Leeds matches referencing the murders, in 2009 a Millwall fan was banned from The New Den for life after taunting Leeds fans about the events whilst wearing a Galatasaray shirt, in 2011 4 Millwall fans were banned for waving Turkish flags at a match against Leeds, and Galatasaray fans haven't forgotten either, their fans have used similar chance in champions league matches against English clubs in the past. There have been many famous rallying speeches over the whole history of combat, whether it be in the theatre of war or merely a matter of winning a game of football. More than any other date, it’s when we remember and pay our respects – and the players should participate fully in this. Little wonder that he remains a figure of hatred and contempt among the Elland Road faithful, to this day. It's a toughy, personally to stop the derision the club match whatever they're offering and loan him out to another Turkish side for a pittance. Yes, Alioski probably isn't aware of the situation between us and Galatasaray, and yes, he has contributed a hell of a lot to the club over the last couple of years and probably does deserve to ride out his last few years of professional football at a club where he can maybe contend for some silverware and add a few more zeros to his paycheck, but Galatasaray? It’s the right thing to do. Now, Fotospor, a Turkish news source, have suggested that Taylor is a possibility for the Galatasaray squad next season, though they acknowledge that the hostility between the two clubs could be a stumbling block. To be honest I find the idea of hating a player who the club is fine with letting go, whether its a move to Galatasaray or Man Utd, to be quite pathetic. Why do Leeds fans feel entitled enough that they have anything to do with his next move? As much as supporters (and some players) have a lifelong passion for and dedication to the club, for most players who come and go, it's a job. After all: “We’re Leeds – and we’re proud of it”. These particular rivalries are some of the strongest in world football and by far some of the most emotional. Football hooliganism in France is often rooted in social conflict, including racial tension.In the 1990s, fans of Paris Saint-Germain (PSG) fought with supporters from Belgium, England, Germany, Italy and Scotland. There’s an army of marketing people, advisers, agents, scum like that. Congratulations Harry. Perhaps the match against Rangers can be a starting point for the Leeds United team, the first steps on the long climb back to respectability. Hernandez may possibly be unaware of the friction between the clubs, that’s possible. When Galatasaray officials arrived at Elland Road for the second leg, hundreds of Leeds fans attacked the coaches that were carrying them which delayed the kick-off of the second leg. During the first minute of the match, Leeds fans turned their backs on the match in protest at what was viewed as a lack of justice. Great atmosphere and don't have overly high expectations of their team. Do it for Chris and Kev, do it for all the rest of us who remember them sixteen years on. It’s possibly a little uncool to crow about an U-23 victory, even of the most decisive variety, and away from home too. So too, much earlier, had Joe Jordan and Gordon McQueen, along with the less-well remembered examples of Arthur Graham and Peter Barnes in the relatively small collective of former Leeds players who have identified themselves with the Pride of Devon and their repellent supporters. A Turkey international but born in Denmark, he … Now, fifteen years after the murders in Taksim Square, and with his football career at an end, Kewell is once more involved in English football, for the first time since a dilatory and uncommitted stint at Liverpool, as a member of the Watford FC coaching staff. They should be left in no doubt at all that such frailties will not be tolerated tonight – not on April the 5th. German people have killed a lot more Leeds fans than Galatasaray fans… Do we give grief to every player who chooses to play for Schalke as they were known to be involved with the Nazi's? Whispers are going around that Abel Hernandez, supposedly in advanced talks to join Leeds United, might instead be on the verge of throwing in his lot with a club many, including myself, see as a disgrace to football and a blot on the name of the game –Galatasaray. Just awh, who could hate them? Kewell cannot possibly have failed to absorb that evil miasma of hate and malice. 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